Light Language and Healing

This week, I'm honored to have Birgitta Visser as our guest co-host.

Birgitta is a soul empowerment coach, light healer, and channels ancient masters. Throughout this episode, you'll find her website link in the description, so be sure to check it out.

Birgitta shares her journey, from childhood trauma to becoming a divine channel. Her story is one of resilience and transformation, overcoming immense hardships to find her path in holistic healing. We delve into the essence of spirituality, the importance of becoming conscious, and the journey of self-love and healing.

We also touch on grounding practices, the power of breath, and the significance of aligning mind, body, and soul. Birgitta provides a powerful light language demonstration focused on peace and clarity, offering listeners a profound experience of energetic healing.

Join us as we explore deep, meaningful topics. 

For more information, visit Birgitta's website and check out her book, "Becoming Authentically Me." Connect with her on YouTube under Power Soul Healing and Instagram under Universal Light Warriors. And stay tuned for her upcoming books, "Become Empowered" and "Child of the Sun: Enroute to Enlightenment in India."

Links for Birgitta:

http://www.powersoulhealing.com

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Transcript

All right. We are live. All right. Welcome, everybody. This is our Friday live show. We run this weekly, every Friday at 7 p.m. Central. I'm your host, John Lawyer. My background is as a soldier. I spent years in Kuwait, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Now I'm a spiritual seeker as well as a coach and a guide. at times. What we're trying to do is open the world up, have great spiritual discussions about philosophical topics, religious topics, and I feel like if we can all listen to each other, have better conversations, the world's just going to be a better place. And each week we feature a different co-host. I'm honored to introduce you to Birgitta Visser. She's a soul empowerment coach, light healer, and channels ancient masters. So throughout this live stream, we're going to have her website scrolling on the ticker. So check it out. And there's also going to be a link in the description for the permanent YouTube and podcast. So Brigitte, can you tell us a little bit about yourself? Hey, John, thank you so much for having me on your show at 2 a.m. in the morning where I'm at. It's late in Spain. yes it is it is a kind of like me matchsticks yeah um no so um yeah you're right I am a what you call a soul empowerment coach a light language healer and a um divine channel so yes I channel many of the ascended masters and um it's it's come very natural to me these days um but you know I've had to learn it's like riding a bike you know like in with everything in life you've gotta um You, when you fall down, you just get up and you continue and you keep trying. And then I still have one foot in the corporate world as well. Okay. So that's me in a nutshell. Yes. Okay. Well, welcome to the show. And if any of the audience has questions for either of us, just post them in the channel. Everybody will try to get to them as we go through the show. And so I like to ask people when they come on the show, Brigitte, like when it comes to spirituality, it's so different for each person. And so like, what is it to you? Like, what do you, what do you, what would you tell people? gosh, aren't we all consciousness walking around in the human body, having human experiences? And that's, I mean, like you said, spirituality means a lot of different things for a lot of different people. For me, it's all about becoming conscious of things and experiencing life. And Yeah. And I mean, not in the past, in the past it was a little bit different, but it is really about becoming more conscious and elevating our consciousness and understanding the cockwheels of life. That's really what it's, you know, what it's about for me, but it's also returning to a love for ourselves and each other and, you know, walking one another back home, as I always say to the light of ourselves. Yeah, that's a really beautiful way to talk about spirituality. I think that would fit a lot of people's definitions. So thank you so much for sharing that. What sets you down this path that you're on today? How did you end up being a spiritualist? Wow. Yeah, trauma. Yeah, life experiences. That's what did it for me. And I think, you know, I mean, many people go through suffering and pain throughout their lives. I mean, for me, it started in my youth. You know, I was molested by a friend of the family. And gosh, I think I was like 10 or 11 years old. And growing up in the 80s was very different, you know, than to what it is today. Not only that, I mean, I lost my dad when I was about 14 to coronary heart disease. And he refused to take his medication. And he hopped on his bicycle and took a last breath. And that was kind of it. And I always say he walked out of life because he was tired of life. Was it a form of suicide? I guess. I guess it was. You know, he was only 44 years old. But my sister I mean my sister and I were teenagers and I just turned 14 and it was just very surreal um I i thought the next day you know he'd just come walking uh he'd just come walking back through that door but of course that wasn't the case and not only that I mean it was very skinny I mean I'm 5 11. And even at school, I was very tall and lanky. And I was bullied at school. And even then, I would often throw my lunches away. And then at the dinner table, I would eat my dinner. And I had this immense fear of boys at the time. And it was so ingrained within me. I just wanted to be invisible, totally invisible. And I mean, I didn't get any, you know, as growing up as a kid, I mean, like I said, life was very different back then to what it is now. And I just kept everything kind of bottled up. And even when my mom put me on a, on a modeling course that didn't elevate that, uh, that heaviness. Yeah. It wasn't like one day magically I got my self-confidence back, my, my self-worth. and just accepted myself the way I was. Oh my gosh, no way. I thought I was ugly. I really felt like an ugly duckling, you know, with knobbly knees and knobbly arms. And, but yeah, so putting me on a modeling course just didn't work for me. And then when a hairdresser just picked me out for a show, they chopped off my hair that was still about my shoulders, chopped it, you know, into a pixie cut. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. I just wish I could grow my hair magically, but of course that didn't work. It took months. And I mean, even in the modeling industry, I mean, I traveled the world, but I could never live of it. I mean, you know, if I, I hardly made any money of it, but even there in New York, I was assaulted by a hairdresser and I just kept that bottled up inside. because it would have been his word against, you know, against mine. And yeah, so I mean, I bartended, I was hostessing, I did administrative work. And yeah, so not only that, but I also rolled into dysfunctional relationships. And that was only because I was very broken on the inside myself. So, you know, what you vibe out is exactly what you reel back in. And the people you meet along your path, they're there to trigger you and to help you actually heal these wounds. But we don't often see it that way. Yeah, because we're all reflections of one another. We're all teachers of one another. And oh my gosh, I didn't see it at the time. I was really like, oh my God, why do these people make me so unhappy? What am I doing wrong here? But besides that, I even rolled into drugs for several months because my stepdad passed away in 2000 of cancer. And it was really, my mom was leaning on me emotionally. And I just feel I didn't have an outlet. And many people, and I am not the only one, many people wanted to see my happy face. And they were so used to that. It's like, well, the unhappy face was like, uh, no, we can't have that. So I could talk about what happened to my stepdad for like a minute and that was it. And then I thought, well, you know what I'm going to do? I am just going to fit in with the crowd. And for three months I, yeah, I used it recreationally, but it kind of went too far because I have blackouts. And, um, yeah, I, I, you know, from one day to the next, like I just stopped, but yeah, going back into these dysfunctional relationships, that's, um, you know, I attracted them. And I always say, prior to being born, we choose these characters for our soul's growth. When we're right back in the middle of it, it doesn't make sense. But once we're out of it, you know, maybe six months down the line or years down the line, you look back and you think, do you know what? I'm grateful that you were a part of my life. And that is something that I had to learn because with many people, Well, I didn't have many, but with the relationships that I was in, it was really, it was really, I couldn't understand what I did wrong. But what we often don't see is that when we're so broken, we attract other broken birds and we try and fix them. We try to mold them to our own liking, but it's basically, we run away from our own brokenness and we project that onto someone else. and try to fix them. And it took many years to figure that one out. It really did. And I think in 2009 was a real turning point for me where one of my turning points where I hit rock bottom and where I was living in Holland. And my ex, he was from the States and he was a real trigger for me. And at the time he was dabbling in drugs, which I didn't know. And it got really, really bad, really, really bad fast. And, you know, I tried to save him. Um, and he did try to beat his demons, but you know, he wasn't, he didn't have a Dutch social and then he was held for ransom by the Crips in Holland. And, um, in, in, in short, I just helped save his life, uh, by helping out the police and he was deported back to the U S. But the leader of the Crips, he called me and he said, if I ever find you, he's like, I'm going to kill you. And he's like, if I ever find your ex, he's like, you'll never find him again. He'll be dead in the ditch somewhere. And that really shook me to my core. That really shook me to my core. And, you know, I'd already left Holland in the space of like several days. My mom had, boom, taken me out of Holland and I'd rented a place in the UK. and uh I just downed a whole box of ibuprofens really lame attempts at my own life and then the next day I just woke up and I decided my mom actually said to me she's like rodita why don't you go and see a counselor and I did I actually did but the counselor was useless absolutely useless because after the hour was up she's like she said to me like brigitte you know what you're gonna be fine you're strong enough you'll manage great and I left and I thought you know this is not helping me I mean I was so down in in the dumps really and um I had to figure it out and so I found a reiki practitioner and as I always say she was really my saving grace and that was the start of my holistic journey Actually, my ex is doing really well. He's turned his life around completely. It took him several more years, but he's doing very, very well. And so if he had not been in my life, that is a prime example, as I always say, if he had not been in my life, I would never have commenced walking that holistic path. And so, yeah, and that's the same for any interpersonal relationship. Rather than looking at it from why is this person doing this to me? It's actually Hey, you know what, what is this experience teaching me? What is this person doing for me? And that's a whole different perspective to look at it. Yeah, rather than when we deflect, we actually reflect every reanalyze reevaluate our lives. Thank you for sharing all that. I mean, I love and appreciate your vulnerability through all that. And I think there's a common thread in a lot of people who have kind of found their spiritual footing. They've seen that trauma. They've seen some darkness that has kind of given them perspective for the light. I think it's really interesting that your experience kind of going down that path started with, with a Reiki practitioner. Cause that's kind of like, you know, a light worker. And I find that like really compelling. Yeah. I mean, I studied many, many healing modalities from EFT, the emotional freedom technique, which I really like because it's powerful. It's very simple and it's really tapping the emotions out of the experience so that, you know, once that, once that dials back to zero, it's like you can just talk about it without being triggered. Very simple. And it can work in the space of several minutes. But I also became like a meditation teacher. I studied that. I studied aromatherapy, aromatouch. Gosh, too many healing modalities to name, to be honest. I was like this SpongeBob because I really wanted to learn understand more but don't think that was the end of my you know the end of my experiences oh my god no no no the universe was like oh let's see let's wrap let's present her with someone else different different environment different packaging and let's see what she does well without phil what did I do the same thing the same thing but this was a little bit different I mean you know I was out in florida and um this guy was a real trip. Um, I, I look back at it now and again, it was, again, it was really for me to, to find out more about myself and to overcome and to become, um, but this guy moved from an hour away to like two doors down for me, refused to leave me alone, you know, would just waltz into my home whenever he wanted, cuz he refused to return the key. Um, he, I'd lost his mother, fell into depression, had a reckless, couldn't pay it, didn't even know there was a warrant out for his arrest at the time. I tried to help him as much as I could. Couldn't pay his bills. You know, I paid the bills, a lot of his bills, got his food. But you know what? I mean, I was there and I was actually working seven days a week, which is insane. Right. And I had my own household as well. And, um, uh, at some stage, you know, when somebody becomes that controlling, um, and that possessive, um, I turned into, into my usual survival mode and my survival mode was really about working like an idiot and, um, and starving myself. Cause these were things that I could control John. Um, and. you know, working like crazy was keeping my emotions in check, really. I was programmed that way. And that's how I could function, which is insane. And I remember putting my house up for sale. And this was a house that I really, really loved. But I just wanted to get away from him. And I couldn't breathe. I felt like I was suffocating. And I sold my home. And I was staying in a dodgy hotel in St. Pete, St. Pete, St. Pete beach for a while. And cause I just, I felt like such a failure that I sold the home and I wanted to buy another home and I did. And what happened as well with my ex there, he was evicted and he begged me, begged me, he said, can you please pay the deposit? He's like, I promise I'll pay you back, sign the contract. Of course, I never saw that money again. But I remember buying the other house and it was a money pit. And gosh, the builders took me for a ride. One of them, I mean, what do you call that? The main guy, the contractor, he was an alcoholic and a drug addict. And yes, I learned the hard way that I'm paid in installments. but I should have held the final installment. And I didn't. Boom, and he was gone. Stole all my tools in the garage, broke into my place, stole everything. And yeah, my place was done for like 80%. So I had to finish it off with one other person, which took several months. I mean, I was shattered by that time. But the thing with this is that there were times where I even in my other home where I was feeling so, so exasperated. And I was saying, I was screaming at the universe saying, you know what? I cannot go on like this anymore. Oh my gosh. I would just be lying on the floor in a dark screaming. And finally it came in the, in a little breadcrumb and in the form of my sister, And she advised me that she'd done combo, which is shamanic frog medicine. And I was at that point, I was like, you know what, what the heck I'm just, I'm just gonna try something else. And truth be told, I didn't do too much research on it. And so I went, I found a practitioner and I went and, uh, oh my goodness. And, you know, I, sitting across from the shaman, um, I had to, he asked me for an intent. And so we sat there and when he burned points in my skin, um, actually in my lower leg, four points, um, he then put the, um, uh, well, the Amazonian monkey tree frog poison onto me. And what happened then was like, oh my gosh. And I had to drink two liters water and. It like rushed to my head so quickly. It was like this massive flu and I was just purging, purging. And of course I had a bucket next to me and I was running up and down the loo and he was just helping me because it just came out everywhere, which is very normal for Kambo because it's a very, very physical experience. And it took me four hours, four hours. And he said, do you know why it took you that long? And I said, no. And he's like, because your ego was battling so hard to stay in the driver's seat because you're so pre-programmed. You've been so conditioned and rigid in your ways that it was just really tough for you to let go until I finally did. um and that was a very life-changing experience for me honestly because um and it wasn't I mean I went back I was a sadomasochist and I went back you know because there was a lot more that needed clearing but the thing what happened to me is like I became more clearer in my head and I made a bucket list and stuck it on my fridge and so I went skydiving because I have a fear of heights I went I started running for charity because I promised my stepdad in 2000 that I was going to start running for charity in cancer. Well, I never did. It remained a figment of my imagination for 16 years until I finally did. So it was a very powerful experience for me. That's like the powerful story part two that you just told, you know, after part one. And one part, you know, one thing I love about this is that you had experienced the Reiki and you studied all these other modalities and... And yet, even after that, there was struggle. There was hardship. Oh, absolutely. And I think that's so important because I think sometimes people think, oh, I'm on a spiritual path now. It's going to be okay. No, no. Which can be true. But oftentimes, there's still things we have to let go of. There's still things that... that we have to take care of. And I really appreciate your experience with the frogs. I've had some friends that have done ayahuasca and have some similar stories to tell me. But especially about the ego, kind of you're released from that because our mind and our ego are so noisy and they're so ever present. And and like you said, we're so preprogrammed to allow that noise to kind of obfuscate our perception of the universe, you know? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. And it was I think, you know. What sent me over the edge really was the fact that I also wrote about this. It was, I mean, this guy had his studio was being tented and he'd said, well, I can stay with Brigitte to the landlord. I said, excuse me, you said what? I said, I do not want you and your two fat cats in my home. And so I had to book him a hotel, right? Yeah. i had to pay for it plus first two cats and then he uh then he got uh then when it I think it was the day it the tenting was supposed to be brought down it wasn't brought down and I just lost it I lost it so completely um I picked him up and he's like yeah but can I stay with you for a few hours I was screaming in the car so hard that because I didn't want that. And I was going through every red light and I was speeding so hard. I just, I'd had enough completely, utterly enough. To this day, John, I do not understand how a police did, you know, how a cop didn't stop me. And he knew he'd gone too far, too far. And it was really weird because after that, he sort of left me alone. But also after that frog, that combo treatment, It was like the universe told me, you know, there was a fair there at First Unity Spiritualist Church. And it says, you got to go, you got to go. And I was like, no. And so I went out and that's where I met my former mentor, Lania Starhawk. And she walked me through the Akashic records, so past lives. And it was very, very interesting because she did not know what happened to me. Um, I'd lost a lot of weight prior to that because I couldn't literally couldn't stomach anything. And when, even when I was in the UK still working, um, I could, I couldn't even down a cup of tea. That's how bad it was. And I became skin over bones. And so when she walked me through a past life with this, with my ex in Florida, she said, you lived some time in like the middle ages and I was pretty well off and I think I had something to do with herbal medication because I always remember I was opening little drawers and my ex at that point you know in that in that lifetime he was like a charlatan who waltzed into my life and he slow poisoned me with an arsenic and under the guise of saying that he was healing me and so And then I told her, I said, now it makes sense why I have these stomach issues, because it's like a karmic residue that we take with us, uh, once we incarnate. And, but what happened was the energy changed completely. And so it was like, he left me alone. And for the time that I was still there, the couple of months that I was still there, I had a bit more peace and I could breathe a little bit more, but under her guys, under her guidance, actually, I learned to channel. And that was, yeah. So that's where you learn to kind of channel this kind of ancient and cosmic wisdom. Yes. Yeah. What it was for me, it was all about self healing at the time. Cause I just asked questions and, um, it was very powerful for me and it's not like, Hey, you know, you, you get the answer that you wish for. Oh, heck no, no, it's not like that. You get the answer that is needed for began your soul's evolution. Right. And I like that term evolution of the soul because we're always growing, right? We're always changing and we're always moving. So yes, I appreciate that. So I look back, I look back and I can only be grateful for him having been part of my life. I mean, I hated him for a while, but you know, it's now I look back and it's like, I'm grateful. And that's the one thing, the one thing, because I work a lot with you and the Master St. Germain, And he's always said, be grateful for everyone that's been a part of your life and has been a part of your journey. Yeah, we talk a lot about on our channel about the fact that the journey really is everything, right? It's not the destination where we very rarely get to where we think we're going to get to. Yes. You know, we never get to the bullseye, right? It's always our journey to the target that is kind of the point. So yeah, it's about appreciating the process along the way. If we can learn to appreciate that, I feel like that's most of the battle of trying to figure out like peace and calm in our life. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And you know, it takes us many, many experiences. Okay. In your book, I've been reading your book. I'm not through it all the way yet, but I do really enjoy it. You talk a lot about conditioning and you talk about the fact that we're kind of being conditioned by society, which I'm very interested in. So if you could kind of talk about that a little bit, I'm interested in what you had to say about it. Yeah. You know, we are taught to live a certain way, to be a certain way. We live in this we live in this matrix of you like this paradigm. I always say we live in this because earth is Tara. Yeah. So Tara, we live in this terrarium and we live in this little glass box. We're like this. We're like this. Humans are like this little experiment. And, um, it's like, Ooh, uh, let's see what we can do now. Let's see how we can exercise our control now. And let's see what these, these little humans in this is the, in this glass box we'll do. And, um, that's how I kind of see how I see it. I mean, I've stepped out of that a long time ago. Sure. But it's, yeah, it's, like I said, we are taught to be a certain way and to live a certain way. And that society, you know, according to the normal society, and that's a lot of garbage. And, you know, you have to be in tune with yourself, you have to be aligned within yourself. And that's why so many people suffer from dis-ease and their soul is just not vibing very happy within their body. It's not aligned. And I mean, let's not even get into like social media. I mean, that's a big, it has a positive, but it also has a negative. And you get all these products thrown at you, this consumerism. Not only that, but people are just so absorbed in this, what I call a technocratic society. It's like you hop on the train. I mean, I remember this in the UK, you hop on the train and it's like nobody looks at one another. Everyone's so engrossed on their phone, scrolling, scrolling, or their laptops or their you know the kindles you name it whatever whatever tablets um whereas you know if you compare it to like the 1980s for instance we didn't have any of that we even had a landline and um you know we played outside with our friends and people would just you know visit one another for coffee and I always say it was far more of a heart-based life than this self-centered this self-centered life. That's how I see it. But I've hopped out of that bubble. And yeah, I always say to people, never live your life according to the tune of another, but rather live it according to the song and dance of your own heart. Because it doesn't matter what people think of you. Really, it doesn't. It matters what you think of you and how you feel about yourself. Yeah. And that's far more important. Yeah. So it's it's really you're when you're walking to the beat of your own drum, you're writing your own story instead of living someone else's story that's being written for you. That's not that's not in line with what you're meant to be. And I agree, I think that the. our technological society that we live in, I think there's tons of benefits to it. I mean, the fact that you and I can be sitting here having a conversation is pretty amazing. But at the same time, it really is this magnetic pull in social media, in technology, and we have a choice about how we interact with it. We have a choice about how we process through it and how we use it and how we choose to live within it and around it. And so when you talk about the conditioning that we receive from society, and I mean, sometimes I call it the stream of unconsciousness that people just want us to be in and be put down the stream and just be on that conveyor belt, right? What do you... Yeah, what do you recommend for people to be able to kind of take a step back and become aware and kind of step out of that conditioning? Yeah, so when we talk, switch off. That's a first, you know, switch off. What happens when we switch off? What happens when we leave our, when we talk about the technology? Ooh, what happens when we leave? When we do a day without, because people can't do that anymore. What happens when we do that? For me, it's very easy. I mean, I got rid of my TV many years ago. I don't really care for it. You know, television means for me, tells a vision, right? It tells a vision. It programs you as well. Yeah, you allow whatever goes on. Whether you watch the news, for me, that's a complete illusion. You know, that's one of the things. There is so much. division going on people are very divisive these days yeah but this is being said and this is being said and I think oh my god you're really falling for it because that's exactly what it's all about about um yes that's right divide and conquer um yes the more division there is uh the easier it is to like control uh the people but really just try and switch off and see what happens Yeah, I love that. I think one of the things that I've seen as far as that division goes, I think when I had kind of my awakening moment, I got out of politics completely. I stopped being interested in social justice. I still believe in justice for people, but I really focused on essentially just what do we have in common? What unites us? What, what, what, you know, if, if I go to my neighbor and we agree on 90% of things, why am I going to get upset about the 10% that we don't agree on? Why are we going to get so upset about that? And I was, I was, uh, reading this form the other day and it was a bunch of teachers and they were talking about their students. And, uh, this one, this one group of teachers had taken, they take their students on a trip every year. and they have to leave their cell phones behind. And it's like a multi-day trip. And when the students get back, they report that one of their favorite things about the field trip was the fact that they were away from their devices and they connected with each other, they connected with nature. And that's one of their favorite things about it. And yet when they go home, they immediately pick it back up and get right back to it. So I think it's a really interesting study and that people know, I think even children know, oh, I can do better if I'm not around this thing, but they can't separate themselves from it. It's like a, it's like a, this pole that is this, this magnet for them. Yeah, absolutely. And you know, it's funny cause when I was out in India and this was in 2009, I, um, I did the advanced course and that was a course of silence, no phones, nothing, just silence and being with your own thoughts and doing service. So for me, service was, you know, sweeping the floors. And even I remember this kid running through everything that I'd swept up, but I couldn't say anything, could not say anything, but being in silence for several days and also meditating, It was so, so powerful because hearing your voice after a few days just sounded really strange. But being with your own thoughts, it's just, it's, you know, you do so much, you know, it's kind of like it was a lot of self-reflection for many of those that were on that course. Right. Yeah. My experience with meditation, you know, and silence is, You start to hear things, not just with your ears, but with all your senses, the things that you see, the things that you feel, the perception that you have from all of your senses, including that sixth sense, that universal sense. You become connected with things that you didn't even know existed, and you start to sense things that you had never realized was there. Yep. And I forgot to mention as well, you know, when we talk about the ego, I always say the ego means, you know, to eject God out. And people are like, yeah, but what do you mean? Because what happens is we eject source. So we're not plugged into source. We're not plugged into the universal consciousness. We've separated ourselves. And that is the ego. Does the ego serve us? Sure, it does. It does help us. through that feat of duality, you know? Absolutely. And that's why I say, you know, we live in a world of comparisons or comparables. We compare to one another and we shouldn't really be doing that. Why? Nobody's better than the other. I'm not better than anyone else. We're all on our own journeys and we vibe at different levels of consciousness, which is fine. Because if we didn't, Oh, sorry. Yeah. If we didn't, then how could we ever progress? How could we ever develop? Exactly. That developed, progressed. And I really love that when you call ego an acronym and ejecting God out. Because, I mean, and you say that and you quantify that with the ego has a use. I mean, it's kept us alive for thousands of years. It's good at what it does, but it overperforms, right? It's completely overperforms. And so... Um, for our audience out there, I think it's good for them to understand that, okay, my ego is giving me useful information, but if I can just quiet, sit it over here, then that's what that term that spiritualists talk about ego death. And when spiritualists talk about ego death, they're not I don't really, I've never really thought they're talking about killing the ego. It's just that over centuries, spiritual teachers have said kill the ego because it's just a metaphor to sitting on its side in the corner and quieting it, you know, so that you can then, like you said, connect to source, the universal language of everything that we're connected to. Yeah, I always give this analogy of, you know, it's like, the ego sitting in the driver's seat and the mind is like, you know, and the mind and the ego are having conversations because the mind ingests everything, you know, everything that it sees and hears and, uh, the ego becomes more boisterous. And where's the soul? Oh, well, they locked it up in his trunk and the soul is going, help me, help me. I want to get out. And, um, and it's like, well, the, the ego and the mind are having a good time and they're, you know, kind of like, uh, I always say they're having a ball of a time until the mind suddenly realizes, well, hey, wait a minute. What am I doing? And why is the ego in the driver's seat? Gets up and opens the trunk, gets the soul out. And I always say this, it's like the ego and the soul and the mind just need to have a conversation. And It's all about absorbing the ego. I mean, that egocentric version of ourselves within our soul, within the loving embrace of our soul. And that's really what it is. And when you kind of do that and that these are life experiences, but when you do that, you come to a very different place because you don't let things affect you as much anymore. It's not like you huff and puff like the big bad wolf, like the ego would do. It's just like, well, you know, I come to a place of acceptance and people are just the way that they are. And what's the point to become hot and bothered about it? Yeah. And I, you know, you've talked about the fact that we're always judging ourselves. You kind of alluded to that earlier. And we're always judging others and comparing ourselves to others. And that's judgment. Yeah. And when we stopped doing that, we spent so much time doing that, that when you release that, the amount of bandwidth that you've opened up for yourself is just massive to be able to be calm, to be peaceful, and to also sense other things like we were talking about. Because that two-way kind of avenue of judgment is just constant. Yep, it is, always, always. And that's the thing that gets you down. Yeah. And when you stop that, it really is a universal experience because you're like, oh, my God, I have so much. There's so much more to life and me than all these judgments I have of myself and of others. Yeah. And, you know, for me, I mean, you know, going back in last year, last year was a tough year for me because I was working. Yeah, this is a good one. I was working like crazy again. I had two roles within the company. And I just kept going because I felt like I had this responsibility. But at the end of the day, John, you know, if you get, God forbid, if you get hit by a bus or a truck, right, you'll be replaced in the space of what, two or three weeks, because you're just a number. And it's just like, well, why do we do that with ourselves? Why do we live, why do we live in that rat race of life? Is that what, if that what gives your, fine if it gives your soul purpose, if that's, what you feel gives you purpose. But actually for me, it didn't, it was really like, what am I doing with my life? I was out of breath. I'd lost like eight kilograms. I, you know, I put myself in the boxing ring just because I thought, you know it's important to get the work done I have this responsibility well actually I should have that responsibility towards myself not just a job and the thing is these days is that you know many people work from home myself included but it's like your wages are like the drug I call it you know your wages are like the drug um that keeps you hooked on being um on on working for a certain company, organization, or your employer. Because, you know, we have to pay our bills in order to stay afloat. But what happens if you turn that around and you're like, you know, actually, what is it that I love doing? What is my passion? And you turn that around and that is what you start to focus on. And even, trust me, even though I still have one role within the company, Um, I am much more balanced now. Um, but it's really, for me, for me, it's now about transitioning out at some point. Uh, I'm just doing my spiritual work, but it's like I said, you know, we keep experiencing life and it will keep showing up, uh, in ways you may not expect, but it's all there to teach you. yeah I think it's it's really healthy to kind of honor that human side of us that we have to like take care of and it's part of who we are and like we have to move through this real world because most of us aren't going to live in a monastery in the foothills of the himalayas right we're going to true and be here yeah and the truth is as long as you are conscious of what you're doing because I was very conscious of it yeah that's the main thing so I wasn't really I wasn't I mean, I wasn't necessarily running on autopilot as I used to, because I was conscious of what I was doing to myself. But it was a matter of, you know, what am I going to do about it? How am I going to resolve this? And even for me, like the UK was so destroying for me, I had to get out. And it was really that nudge that I needed from the universe saying, Brita, it's now time to time to get out. It's not only that. I mean, the UK quadrupled with everything in pricing. It was insane. And so I headed out to Spain. And yeah, I've been here since last year. And it's been a healing journey for me as well. Well, that sounds like you know, universal intuition, right? And that we listen to it. Like when the universe is telling us something, if we don't listen to it, then things kind of can go quite awry. Oh, absolutely. And then people say, yeah, but the grass is not always greener on the other side. Well, no, but there is a difference because I followed my inner compass north this time around. Right. And I'm glad I did. I'm glad I did. Absolutely. So as I mentioned earlier, I've been reading your book, Becoming Authentically Me, and it has been a great read so far. And I was wondering if you could just kind of tell us about, when you think about your book, what would you like to tell people? Ooh, what's it about? Gosh, you know, that was a process. I mean, that book took me about 20 years to write. That was my first book. So yeah, I mean, I talk a lot about the... It's in two parts. So the first part is really about the shifting consciousness, about the transformational times we find ourselves in. A lot of that is channeled. I talk about the Anunnaki. I talk about Atlantis, about Lemuria. I talk about the whole COVID debacle. um, about the fact that there is no death really, because we never die. We're energy. Uh, we keep transforming and we keep evolving because that's what we are. We're a consciousness. Right. And, um, yeah, so that's the first part of my book really. And I also actually, there, there is one thing and you may have come across it. I call the garden of, so the garden of Eden, um, where Eden is an acronym and it actually means, oh gosh, my gosh, I had it in my head. Earth Development Exploration Network. That's how it was given to me. And I was like, oh my God, that's amazing. You know, it's not like some, you know, like a literal garden. But, you know, like I said, the whole, that whole Middle Eastern region from Iraq all the way to Turkey, That's what I call the garden of where the Garden of Eden was situated. And so I do talk about that as well. But the second part of my book is all about my life and everything that I've overcome. I mean, I talk about depression. I talk about addiction. I talk about mental health as well. I talk about the people that I've lost. And it's all infused with the many humorous channel messages from the many masters. And they always say, you know what, take life with a pinch of salt. You people are all so serious when things happen to you. And it's just like, you know, it's just an experience. Life is an experiment to experience. And don't get so bogged down with everything that you go through. I mean, it may seem huge when you're right in the middle of it, but it's just an experience. That's it. Yeah. Don't remain in that victimhood, but rather just get up, do the work, do the inner work, and heal. And, you know, you cannot escape your own inner demons. It's really about walking through the dark night of soul. Oh, and I've walked it time and again. You know, I always say I burnt my butt to a crisp time and time again. But would I have my life any other way? No. No, because I wouldn't be who I am today. Yeah, I feel the same way that I wouldn't go back and change anything in my past, even though some of it was very difficult, right? Yeah. And navigating through that is tremendously powerful. That's a really vivid description. Exit is a really good book. I encourage everybody to get a copy and read it. In the introduction, you talk about, and you've talked about it several times today as well, you've talked about reflection. And I'm always fascinated with reflection because... whether you're reading the Sufi poets in Rumi or you're reading other religious traditions, we come up with mirrors and reflections in spirituality and religion and philosophy quite a bit. And you said that people should look at themselves in the mirror. and say, I love you. And I really love that because I have great faith and deep respect for the power of the spoken or verbal word, you know, and affirmation. So can you talk about why that's so important? Oh, you know, that's, yeah, my dad and when we, my sister and I were kids, he would say, look at yourself in the mirror and tell yourself, I love you. It's like, well, you know but even now I can say to myself you know in the mirror I love you but for the longest time that was very hard for me because you know we look at ourselves in such a distorted way it's like I compare that to the laughing hole of mirrors because that's how we see ourselves completely distorted whereas we're all beautiful beautiful souls encapsulated within a human body having these human experiences and And yeah, so that that to me is really that reflection. But another thing about that is when people keep pointing fingers and I would say, you know, I would hold a mirror if I were to hold a mirror up to them. It's like, well, actually, you're pointing fingers at yourself, aren't you? So what are you going to do about it? You know, it's about taking that responsibility for our lives and that accountability. because nobody else has to do the work but you. Yeah, that's so true that we're the only ones that can do the work for ourselves. No one else can change us. We have to change ourselves. And again, like you said earlier, when we're having problems with other people, when we're having judgments, it's often a reflection of ourselves. It usually is a reflection of ourselves. That's a beautiful trigger. There is something within you that's requesting to be healed. But we don't see it that way. We don't see it that way. But it is. And rather than what I always say, playing whack-a-mole with our emotions, it's like, hey, look at that part of yourself. Look at that trigger and understand what it is wanting from you. And yeah, reevaluate that and heal. Yeah, heal. And healing, I think one of the things that you talk about in your book, in this journey of healing, in your book, in the introduction, you actually say, I'm going to repeat myself throughout this book some. And so I want to let you know right now that's going to happen. And I love that, right? Because I feel like spiritual teachers are always repeating themselves. Yeah. But it's so important. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. So. And the other thing, the other thing that I besides that, you know, returning to that love for ourselves is cultivating that joy within. Yeah, I think that when it comes to like, what do you want out of life? What do you want out of the universe? Yep. think being joyous is should be at the top of a lot of our lives absolutely absolutely we should be having fun uh and even in dark times even when you're having problems you can still have fun you can still find the positivity and the joy in it and um you you one of the themes I'm hearing from you throughout this is self-love and yeah we talk we talk about this on the show I think probably every time we have someone on Because it's so important. And it's, I think it keeps coming up for me when I talk to other people in the spiritual field, in the spiritual realm, because our society doesn't teach us to it. So I think we have to keep saying it. We have to repeat it because it really is about loving yourself first, completely 100% before you do anything else. And that's, it sounds, okay, I get that. But to actually go do it, I don't think it's easy, especially given our conditioning that we talked about earlier. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. But, you know, self-love is a necessity. You cannot pour from an empty cup. That's impossible. And it took me a long time to figure that one out. That's why I, you know, and I was a doormat for everyone because I wanted to make everyone happy. Yeah, that's not self-love. That is that fear of being hurt. I had an immense fear of being hurt. I had this immense fear of what other people thought of me. So I had to live a certain way. Well, that didn't work out very well for me, did it? So eventually that I really had to nurture my own soul, which is really important. Working on that relationship with your, you know, the relationship with yourself is so important because once you heal, from the pain you've kept within. And I call that, you know, we keep the pain in quantum physics. We keep the pain in our mind. I call the archives of the mind, but it's the little hypothalamus, you know, the little mini factory within our brains. And we store a lot of our unhealed experiences there. But we also store the joy there. But when something happens, it's like, or we meet someone and we go into, it doesn't matter, for instance, very black or white, we go into a relationship and it's like, oh, no, but there's an unhealed experience there. It's like, oh, no, it's like, oh, it's like this archive opens. It's like, and the trigger comes out. And it's like, you know, we still act a certain way when we are in another relationship because we haven't healed from that trigger. And that's why we pile a whole lot of junk up there and we keep it there. And when we start sifting through that and healing the wounds within our mind that have kept bleeding into our environment, you know, our world becomes completely different because we have to heal from the inside out, not the outside in, the inside out. Yeah. And you talked earlier about kind of that alignment of mind, body and soul. Yeah. And the fact that when you look at things from a spiritual perspective, it's not just that. It's our body, our mind, it's our spirit. And it's reprogramming all of that into the way that makes the most sense for you, that takes you to the place that you need to go. And that's not always easy. It takes time and it takes repetition and it takes falling down and getting back up, right? It's unlearning everything that you have learned. Yeah. It's unbecoming to become. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And that's addition by subtraction. And then you get to add to yourself after that. Yes. Yeah. It's a big thing, I think. And that we can replace these things that we subtract with great things, with things that we need. Yeah. Things that vibe with us. Yeah. Absolutely. And it's basically a shift in consciousness. That's what it is. It's one of these things that I got asked a lot by the way. Yeah. But what does it mean shifted? What does it mean going from 3d to 5d? Well, it's very simple shifting consciousness. That's what it's about. And it's like, yeah, but isn't somebody going to save us? What's happening with the world? Wow. You're here to save yourself. Yeah. You're here to heal yourself and inspire others. And again, You can wait for a savior until you're blue in the face, but it's really the work starts with ourselves. And that's that shift in consciousness going from that 3d. Many people have already shifted from that material that very masculine to that more 5d and that more, um, shifting that consciousness, doing the healing work and, um, being far more in tune with themselves. And when I say in tune with themselves, it's the masculine and the feminine imbalance. Whereas the masculine is important. It's all about the doing. And I would say go, go, go. But it's in balance with the feminine. It's about nourishing our spirits and nurturing your own soul. Yeah, I completely resonate with that. I mean, that's why we named our community in Kishore after the Sumerian goddess Mother Earth. When people go out and they say to themselves, okay, I'm going to do this. I'm going to kind of walk this spiritual path. I'm going to have a spiritual growth. I'm going to be aligned in mind, body, and soul. I'm going to work on that. I always think that it's really important that people kind of be grounded and centered in their day-to-day lives and their reality. So what grounds you? What centers you in your everyday? So I'm gonna hit that question back at you. What does that do for you? I'll give my view. Yeah, no, you're a co-host, so I love that. For me, being Grouton-centered is having kind of an organized space around me that helps. It helps when I breathe right, because I think breathing's really that connection to the beyond. And so if I can breathe easy, even if it's just like as I go throughout my day and I'm not stressed, I don't have anxiety and I can take deep, full breaths. That's a huge start. I think having being some intentional movement where I'm moving my body every day in some way, regardless of what that is. I don't do that as much as I should, but I'm working on work in progress. It's OK. I think eating well and eating because I think that is so personal because I think diet is is very unique to each person. So I think whatever works best for a person, eat that. And I think that's a huge base. Sleep, sleeping. Right. I think sleeping well, I think these practical things and then there's there's the more esoteric stuff like you know I i try to meditate every day or at least have some reflection and I have some intentional meditations I do bathing meditations twice a week uh bathtub candles like um chill um so stuff like that just stuff that keeps me within myself yeah yeah I like that I like that very practical very practical I mean I like to meditate as well know 20 minutes a day and and for those people that are listening right if you're like um yeah but I can't meditate yes you can you can it's all about going back to the breath and I like to listen to david g so j I david and then j I on youtube and he does these 20 minute meditations you know eradicating fear anxiety um setting an intent to the universe he's got so many different ones very very powerful and um because it's a guided meditation and he does a mantra you just follow it through and you just listen to it and the more you do it um the more you do it it's you know when you start you just start your day off right and uh I don't like clutter around me so I like to be able to breathe in my own home Um, I don't really care about the material. Yes. And I, but you know, it's really weird, especially, I mean, I've had so many downloads the last couple of weeks, it's been intense and my diet's been changing as well. Um, so it's really weird. Like I, I used to love like chocolate, can't even, can't even eat it anymore. I just can't. Um, so there's a lot of shifts even happening within me, but, um, There is another exercise that I really, really like. I mean, I go to the gym as well, so I like to work out. But one exercise is grounding. Now, you can go and ground yourself, you know, with your bare feet, Mother Earth, go to the sea, whatever, whatever. But there's one little exercise and it takes like a minute to do and it's really, really powerful to ground ourselves so that we're right here in the moment and present in our own body because we're not. Too many people are either in the future or in the past rather than being in the present moment in your body and creating from this point on. That is so important because that is where you hold your power. And it's really just closing your eyes and envisioning that you are sitting, as I always say, sitting on a couch behind your eyes. Yeah, because that way your thoughts, you don't get muddled within your thoughts. And when you envision that, you just take like a couple of deep breaths in. And then you go all the way down to the base of your spine where your root chakra is located. And you imagine roots growing or a beam of light going all the way through the layers and layers of the earth until you get to the core. And the core of the earth, I envision this as a big crystal, a big luminous energetic crystal. And you wrap either your roots around it or the light beam around it. And you take that energy from the core the core of mother earth and you go back up either through the roots or that beam of light and you allow for that energy to go through your whole body and you feel that going through your whole body and into your auric field and once you feel that you are grounded and you are very very present within your body and in this moment no that's uh that's a good meditation in and of itself I think oh it is it's very very powerful yeah absolutely um it's interesting you talk about grounding and like like literal grounding my my sister's been talking to me about that she's been doing it and uh I've been doing it a little bit and there's definitely something to just uh touching the earth and being a part of it and sensing that root that root chakra I like that I'm a big fan of the of the chakras and Yeah. And you can do this anywhere. It doesn't matter. Even if you're in the post office, in the supermarket, you can do it, you know, and then once you start doing it, it will take you, it will take you, it's like a, an on and off switch. Once you get used to it, it's like an on and off switch, but it's just, it's powerful. And I think people live too much either in the past or in the future. And then it becomes murky when you are trying to create. And when we talk about manifestation, it's really about envisioning that you're already there, that you've already achieved that or whatever you're trying to manifest. And then just taking the steps to reaching that goal. Right. Because we're energy. yeah we're energy and and you know what we're putting out in the universe obviously we're going to attract back to ourselves and yeah we know that just by walking down the street if we put out positive energy we generally receive that back from people so we actually can test it out just walking down a street or walking into a room with positive energy will generally receive positive energy back so you can actually test it yes and see that it actually works. And then if you live that way and you're focused on how you're putting yourself out to the universe, then then what you receive back is going to be pretty amazing. You know, the universe sends us what we ask for. Absolutely. And that's you know about the universe, by the way. I always say the universe is our dance partner. And yet what do we do? We kick our dance partner blue in the sheets. Yeah, because we We are, the universe is trying to flow with us, but we are not in the flow with the universe. Yeah, I love when you talk about that, because for me, I always talk, I talk a lot in my YouTube videos about moving with the rhythm of the universe. So we're, you know, we're speaking the same language here because the universe has changed. And I don't believe in absolutes. I don't believe in constants. But that probably is the only constant, right? Change, the motion, the rhythm of the universe. That is the constant. especially if you kind of understand the duality of the universe, people have different views on it. Because I believe the non-dual nature of like this pantheistic oneness of us all. But I believe that within this human self, right, where this like, there's this dualistic fight between light and dark and where that balance that kind of walks the middle and we get to choose where we put our energy, right? So I think that's a powerful way to kind of move through our reality. Yep. I always say with our experiences, well, that's what I was told. There's no right or wrong in how you decide to experience life. Yeah. You know, you grow, you grow at your own rate. It's okay. It doesn't matter. And when you fall down, does it matter? No. Do I fall down? Do I take a, you know, do I take a tumble? Sure I do. I'm not perfect. I'm still a work in progress. Yeah. Work in progress. And that's okay. That's a good thing. Yes. So there's, there's probably a couple dozen more things that I could probably ask you, but is there anything that we have that we haven't talked about yet that you really want to kind of put out to the audience? Like any, any messages or anything? I don't know. Do you want a light language demo? Sure. Go for it. So, um, I mean, light language too. I mean, some people like, Hey, what's light language? Well, it's, uh, I always say it's a very powerful form of healing because it speaks directly to the soul. It's a, um, uh, the cosmic language of love, so to speak. And, um, on a conscious level, your mind is not going to understand. It's like, what, what, but on a soul level, you know, um, your soul actually understands these codes just beautifully. And I am so humbled to, you know, to be able to do that. It took me forever to, to spit it out, so to speak, because I was too afraid and it had to do with a past life in Lemuria. But I found a teacher and she's a friend of mine as well. And I said to her, I said, you're going to kick me off that cliff because I know I'm ready. And so I had a face to face with her and she really kicked me off that cliff. And then it just started. She did the achievements and then it just started to flow. Yeah, I just I absolutely love doing it. But yes, so is there an intent you want to focus on? I will leave that up to you. I trust you. Okay, fine. Yes. So the first thing that I got actually is, is peace. Okay. And I think once we are at peace with ourselves, we get a lot more clarity. I completely agree with that. Okay, so I'm going to ask you to close your eyes. And just take a very deep breath in. Hold it. And gently let that go. And just take two more very, very deep breaths in. And release it. And as I bring through the light codes, just allow for them to be absorbed, as I always say, in your whole being. So we're focusing on peace and clarity. Okay. I gently feel that they're saying, like drifting, drifting on the clouds and allow for this to flow through your whole body just very, very gently. Just let the troubles of the day go. And allow for your energy field to be cleansed and to be cleared. to be translucent and to be transparent. And forget not to bow at your own feet with gratitude. Tika, tika nimi kisi waha niki waha. And they're saying, be easy on yourself. Thank you. Whenever you're ready, you can open your eyes. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. It's amazing. I'm always amazed at the energy that you can feel across continents and electrons. It's pretty amazing stuff. Yep. Energy, right? That's all energy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you so much. Um, you're welcome. Yeah. I, uh, I work a lot. These, these were a lot of the star walk. I work with many, but these were the star Walker people and I call them the star Walker people because they are ancient, you know, ancient, ancient, um, you can call them native Americans. But actually, they're more from the South Americas. So that's why I call them Starwalker people. Okay. Yeah, like from going way back. Yes, way back. Way back. Yeah. Okay. You know, and every time I do a light language healing, it just calms me right down as well. Sometimes it gives me a high, but now I'm really calm. Yeah, it is calming. It is centering and grounding too. So yeah, thank you so much for sharing that. You're welcome. So, you know, throughout this episode, we've had your link to your website scrolling. So I absolutely encourage everyone to go check it out and get in contact with you. Check out your book. You're an amazing person. Your book has great advice in it. Is there anywhere else that you would like to direct people to? There's a few things. Well, I mean, yes, my website, which is up there. I am also on YouTube. under Power Soul Healing. And I've got my Instagram, but my Instagram is messed up right now, which is under Universal Light Warriors. And I have my collaboration book that's out, Become Empowered. I have another collaboration book coming out in August. And then my second solo work is coming out in September, which is Child of the Sun, Enroute to Enlightenment in India. sounds fun oh it's it's it's a totally different it's not a big book um probably about 200 pages and um I talk about my journey at the art of living center in bangalore okay yeah so it's all about the breath and meditation and you know you touched on the meditation part as well which the breath work is so important because absolutely we shallow breathe yeah we do when we do breathe Yeah. And that's why we live within the shallowness of ourselves. We live on the surface of ourselves. So when we start to breathe deep, that's when we start to resonate far more deeply within. Yeah, we connect on a much deeper level. Yeah. And we, and I mean, if you breathe in it, there's some breathing that, that is so deep that when you, you get into it, you can even, I mean, we have DMT in our brain, right. And we can actually access the universe through that breath work and DMT in our head. Absolutely. You reached that zero point. I love reaching that zero point. It's like, uh, one of my guides, uh, one of my guides is, um, uh, Confucius. the ancient philosopher. And it's like, he says, he says to me, sit in the hall of nothingness. Yeah. And that stillness of yourself. And I thought that hall of nothingness, that is just so powerful. Yeah. it is because we're we're not we're everything and nothing at the same time we really are yeah and space is everything right like whether it's space like out in the cosmic sense or the space of an atom in an atom right it's like almost infinite that's pretty cool yeah um yeah absolutely so yeah I talk about that and I i channel a lot of the indian deities like krishna ganesh uh hanuman uh kali But I also talk about depression and somebody else that was on the course that committed suicide. I talk about the Indian culture. um the naughty leaves because I they were trying to find my naughty leaf I remember this was in 2000 and that was 2008 they tried to find it couldn't find it but hey ho what if they found my naughty leave and they could predict my future um what would I have been spared all the trauma you know the remaining trauma so I'm glad they didn't find it but it holds I mean you know apparently it's it's it it rings true for many people that have had their Nadi leaves read. So I, yeah, I met Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, a beautiful, beautiful human. And he is the founder of the art of living and a humanitarian as well. So it's a very, very different kind of book, but it's, it's a lot of fun. And again, you know, it's, I do take the mickey out of myself and out of my experiences. because I'm not very serious about that anymore. Not like I used to be. Sure. Life's too important to be taken seriously, Oscar. Yeah. So, yeah, I totally resonate with that. Well, I wanted to thank everybody for watching the show tonight. We're going to be around next Friday at 7. We have a guest co-host. It's going to be Jessie Torres. She's going to be talking about peak performance and life strategy and probably some interesting takes on spirituality. Brigitte, I wanted to thank you again so much for co-hosting and being a guest tonight. And thank you so much for being a good sport and staying up late tonight. Thank you for doing this. I really appreciate it. No, no. Thank you, John. Thank you so much for having me. And there's one thing that I will say for anybody that's out there and that's just in pain or suffering, you know, reach out to someone because that's really, really important. And my dad always used to say one thing, John, you know, it's there's always light at the end of the tunnel, no matter how dark it may be I i have lived that message myself and I i totally uh resonate with that and and and repeat it to people as well that's absolutely the best advice and uh uh if you'll just stick around for a minute we're gonna uh get the live ended here and we'll hang out for just a second before you head off so all right we gotta end it on